Glad that this information has come to light. (ebook) Insider's View of Mormon Origins (9781560853008) from Dymocks online store. I also agree with Thomas Jefferson who taught that however discomfiting a free exchange may be, truth will ultimately emerge the victor.2 President Hugh B. In order to navigate out of this carousel please use your heading shortcut key to navigate to the next or previous heading. There was an error retrieving your Wish Lists. Longtime LDS educator Grant H. Palmer suggests that most Latter-day Saints remain unaware of the significance of these discoveries, and he gives a brief survey for anyone who has ever wanted to know more about these issues. Quotes By Grant H. Palmer. Chap.

Reviewed in the United Kingdom on May 1, 2014. Do you They have published, critiqued, and re-evaluated a veritable mountain of evidence. Perhaps the reader is already puzzled by this lengthy dialogue on historiography and freedom of belief.

They have heard that we are revisionists, and by this they understand that we are rewriting history in a way that was never intended. Longtime LDS educator Grant H. Palmer suggests that most Latter-day Saints remain unaware of the significance of these discoveries, and he gives a brief survey for anyone who has ever wanted to know more about these issues. Your recently viewed items and featured recommendations, Select the department you want to search in. From the Preface: 'I, along with colleagues, and drawing from years of research, find the evidence employed to support many traditional [official Mormon] claims about the [Mormon] church to be either nonexistent or problematic.'

None of these men actually saw or handled the gold plates, and in all cases were relating second or third-hand information, sometimes many years after the events occurred. Unfortunately, our adult lessons and discussions at church rarely rise above the seminary level, even though many of our members are well educated. As a young man, I became involved in CES because of my commitment to the gospel and my love of the scriptures and also because of my passion for church history. Restoring Christ: Leaving Mormon Jesus for Jesus of the Gospels, In Sacred Loneliness: The Plural Wives of Joseph Smith, Joseph Smith: The Making of a Prophet (A Biography), This book will be a good addition to your library. Please try your request again later. Your recently viewed items and featured recommendations, Select the department you want to search in. When I or my colleagues talk or write about the LDS past, we tend to avoid superlatives that members expect when hearing a recital of our history. Still, faith needs to be built on truth–what is, in fact, true and believable. We like to hear confirmations that everything is as we assumed it was: our pioneer ancestors were heroic and inspired and the Bible and Book of Mormon are in perfect harmony, for instance. Elder Roberts said: “In a church which claimed continuous revelation, a crisis had arisen where revelation was necessary.” He hoped his brethren would bring “the inspiration of the Lord” to solve these problems. After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in.

I find these matters to be so engaging that, for me, they bring church history to life for the first time. We worry that tender ears may overhear. An Insider's View of Mormon Origins is a fascinating read with many compelling proofs against the claims of the Church.

We never learn in church that the Book of Abraham papyri were discovered and translated by Egyptologists or that researchers have studied Native American genes and what the implications are for the Book of Mormon. The subject field is required. I discuss these issues in eight chapters, the first of which evaluates Joseph Smith’s efforts at translation.

Unable to add item to List. --. Click link to access\" ; RELIGION \/ Christianity \/ Denominations\"@, Export to EndNote / Reference Manager(non-Latin). It is exciting to see what has been done collaboratively by church historians–the faculty of the Joseph Fielding Smith Institute for Church History at Brigham Young University, BYU history and religion professors and scholars from other disciplines and other church schools, and seminary and institute faculty–and by unaffiliated scholars. Far from that, the foundational stories are in many cases more spiritual, less temporal, and more stirring. 3: (The Bible in the Book of Mormon) demonstrates the King James Bible as source for numerous reworked Book of Mormon stories, many anachronisms and King James translators\' errors copied in this erroneous form into the Book of Mormon. People should express their problems and opinions and be unafraid to think without fear of ill consequences. Click link to access, 0-search.ebscohost.com.librarycatalog.vts.edu, Lakeland College Access

1879, 1. They have heard that we are revisionists, and by this they understand that we are rewriting history in a way that was never intended. Joseph Smith as a translator \/ revelator -- 2. Promotions are applied when you make a purchase. Grant H. Palmer (M.A., American history, Brigham Young University) is a three-time director of LDS Institutes of Religion in California and Utah, a former instructor at the Church College of New Zealand, and an LDS seminary teacher at two Utah locations. Chap. Please try again. Some of this research has been conducted by critics of the church. Chap 5: (Moroni and the Golden Pot) examines a long list of parallels between a published story by E.T.A. It shows that Joseph Smith was not honourable, nor are the present day leaders, do not have integrity, to put it blunt.

[55] (emphasis added). For example, Fayette Lapham recalled an interview with Joseph Smith, Sr. forty years before, and noted that something "struck" Joseph on the breast, "always with increasing force." Yet the relatively modest print runs these books usually receive indicate that they sell mostly to other professionals rather than to the LDS public at large. These are matters that I wrestled with for years. 6: (Witnesses to the Golden Plates) concludes that, despite the LDS Church's current claims, the evidence shows that none of the eleven witnesses claimed to have actually seen the physical gold plates, instead visualizing them 'with spiritual eyes' in a prayer-induced trance state. Yet, I feel good that I do not cloak the issues in ambiguities, with an overdose of qualifiers and disclaimers. It shows that Joseph Smith was not honourable, nor are the present day leaders, do not have integrity, to put it blunt. If nothing else, the reader may sense my enthusiasm, which can be boundless, I admit. Brown, a counselor in the LDS presidency during the 1960s, echoed on behalf of the church: I admire men and women who have developed the questing spirit, who are unafraid of new ideas as stepping stones to progress. Still, faith needs to be built on truth–what is, in fact, true and believable. It will certainly broaden your understanding of Mormonism, and I was impressed to see an LDS member being frank about the founder of his Faith, but I simply can't see how he remains a supporter of the church when he knows how it started off as lies - and not even very original ones. Chap 4: (Evangelical Protestantism in the Book of Mormon) concludes that numerous theological issues addressed in the Book of Mormon probably derived from Smith's Upstate New York religious environment than from the claimed ancient gold plates. Unable to add item to Wish List. We too often confuse faith with knowledge. It also analyzes reviews to verify trustworthiness. This is perhaps on of the most comprehensive and well researched book on the truth about the early church. Feel free to read my exit story, "My Apostasy From The LDS Church" for an in-depth look at my journey out of the LDS Church and some of the early research I conducted. Your friends don’t always tell you what you need to hear. When I or my colleagues talk or write about the LDS past, we tend to avoid superlatives that members expect when hearing a recital of our history. eBook available for Durham College via EBSCOhost. Mormon Church -- History -- 19th century.

An insider's view of Mormon origins. Please note, as the title of this blog indicates, I am a liberally-minded progressive ex-Mormon, and atheist; I am well aware of my biases, and will strive to acknowledge them in my writings. I found this rather eye opening. Please feel free to post any questions or comments. An Insider's View of Mormon Origins Quotes, “the Mormon doctor said, “Sometimes Mr. Smith speaks as a prophet, and sometimes as a mere man. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. None of the Three or Eight witnesses ever told a story of a toad as "treasure guardian" of the plates, yet, according to the author, "The witnesses believed that a toad hiding in the stone box became an apparition that struck Joseph on the head."[1].

So, I just finished reading this book. This picture is much different from what we hear in the modified versions that are taught in Sunday school. Hoffmann, and Smith\'s account of the angel Moroni\'s visits. There has not been an attempt to eliminate the spiritual from the secular. I wish to thank my friends and colleagues who agreed to be readers of my first and subsequent drafts for their many helpful suggestions and encouragement. You may have already requested this item.

I have two purposes in writing. http:\/\/www.worldcat.org\/oclc\/986243217>. Smith 'mistranslated a number of documents' including the Book of Abraham, used the King James Bible extensively in constructing the Book of Mormon, also weaving in many 19th century concerns, and that the Book of Mormon is of 'no value in trying to learn more about ancient America or the Middle East.' If you’d like to learn more about Palmer’s journey out of the Church, visit MormonThink.com/GrantPalmer. The author of this exceptionally clear & thoroughly documented book is an active, fourth-generation Mormon, a 34-year professional historian and Mormon-studies director at college-level religious institutes. 1: (Joseph Smith as Translator/Revelator) concludes that Jos. Chap 5: (Moroni and the Golden Pot) examines a long list of parallels between a published story by E.T.A. You can easily create a free account. Chapters 7-8 investigate priesthood restoration and Joseph’s first vision, detailing the developments and what precipitated the changes in the history of these two experiences. After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages that interest you. I also hoped that I might resolve some of my own questions in an atmosphere where I could freely contemplate them. Corpus ID: 147181593. These are matters that I wrestled with for years. He has been active in the Mormon History Association and on the board of directors of the Salt Lake Legal Defenders Association. Whatever else, they are also fascinating. It is certainly a required read for anyone seeking to know the truth about Joseph Smiths story. Hoffmann and the European traditions ... \' Chap. Willard Chase and Benjamin Saunders told the story of the "toad" hiding in the stone box. We can order this in for you How long will it take? If nothing else, the reader may sense my enthusiasm, which can be boundless, I admit. Their ears finely tuned to the nuances of such parlance, they assume that we have secularized the story, that we are intentionally obtuse, or that we split hairs. Very well documented book. (not yet rated) What amazes me most about this book is that despite the large volume of evidence against Mormonism that Palmer puts forth and acknowledges, he somehow has managed to convince himself (and numerous others, based on the Goodreads reviews of the book) that this book is intended to strengthen one’s faith in Mormonism! For thirty-four years I was primarily an Institute director for the Church Educational System (CES) of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The only way he manages to do this is by redefining what it means for him to be Mormon. Would recommend. ( Log Out /  Something went wrong. They will have to be dealt with if we are to maintain a position of honesty and integrity in our dealings with our own members as well as our friends in the larger religious community.”1 I find this position to be both refreshing and healthy.